Humble apologies to my kind readers.
A journalist friend of mine (who obviously knows me too well) sent me a late night wind-up text message, knowing that I would rush it out before going to bed.
I went to bed trying to come to terms with some very mixed emotions. Trying not to think ill of the dead can be hard under certain circumstances. I surprised myself when I ended up whispering a short intercession asking that Thatcher not be sent to hell, or at least not for eternity. Yet still I want her to have to face what she did to so many families, be it in this life or the next.
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Stupid boy.
Ed Clarke said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:10 am
This is not a blog I have visited often. I’ll be visiting less in future.
peter the punter said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:13 am
It must be terribly disappointing for your hate figures to still be alive each morning when you wake.
Ed Clarke said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:15 am
Yes, very embarrassing. My “source” thinks that attracting the (further) hatred of right-wing nut-jobs is very amusing. He will be punished.
Not to worry. More Bullingdon club stories to come - will make up for last night’s “oops” moment.
Recess Monkey said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:21 am
You couldn’t wait to jump on her grave could you?
Rob said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:21 am
For heaven’s sake - if you want sympathy for maggie, you really are in the wrong place.
Fortunately, I don’t think that error was defamatory.
Recess Monkey said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:22 am
I don’t expect sympathy, no. Just you should probably check with one other source before posting such a bombshell.
Nevermind
Rob said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:25 am
I know what you mean rob - i just thought it was a credible source - and it was, but it was a credible source taking the piss.
Frankly Rob, I thought it was realistic. How much would you put on her lasting past Christmas?
Recess Monkey said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:28 am
I thought that you genuinely had a scoop. But it was a spoof - when was the last time you had a genuinely newsworthy story on this site?
Anon said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:30 am
Now this has happend she isn’t gonna die for another ten or so years :p
Yeah, I doubt he is in your goodbooks now.
Rob said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:30 am
Davis Amess’ Fish was a good one…
Recess Monkey said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:31 am
Yet another Bullingdon story? Well done, Cameron is from a well-to-do family. Hardly breaking news is it? When Labour have to resort to attacks on his background you know he’s onto something.
I don’t see any lefties complaining about Fettes Blair, or Viscount Wedgewood-Benn.
Ed Clarke said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:35 am
This Hilton boy is a silly lefty cunt, isn’t he?
andy said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:40 am
Fuck off back to bed you chimp. I’ve written up your obituary you disgusting creature - and yes you have edited the previous post.
Praguetory said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:44 am
I think you’ll find Old Wedgie was only given a hereditary peerage because there was no such thing as a life peerage at the time. I believe you’ll also find that what people find worrying in Cameron, they found reassuring in TB. Funny game like that, politics.
Somehow, being a bit posh made TB “safer” as a Labour politician to middle england. However, being 34th in line to the throne doesn’t make “Dave” look less likely to screw the poor, abolish the NHS or privatise education, which is what people, deep down, know the Tories want to do.
Recess Monkey said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:45 am
Step away from the PC, Recess, you’re having a breakdown.
Praguetory said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:48 am
Why have you now suddenly edited the previous post, which called Mrs Thatcher a ‘milk snatcher’, on the day you thought she died? Why have you now cut this out?
Is it because it makes you look like a gloating yob, on top of a being a deluded twat?
Does your employer know of this? We’re gonna tell them, cunt.
andy said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:49 am
Your “I want a seat so let me emphasise how much I hate Thatch” is understandable. But your party couldn’t wait to embrace Thatcher’s reforms and to take them further. Blair paid his dues to her back in ‘96. She slew socialism forever, your party piled the corpses in the streets. Thank her for the prosperity you live under. Old Labour is dead and she killed it.
Thatcherite Girl said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:52 am
Praguetory YOU STEAMING MOUND OF CAMEL POO (not edited)
I didn’t edit the post you gimp, “milk snatcher” is the alt text for the pic AND IT’S STILL THERE.
Now go and leave comments somewhere where people give a toss what you think
Recess Monkey said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:54 am
So you still think its OK to call Mrs Thatcher “milk snatcher” on the day this old woman died - or so you believed.
Stop digging, cunt.
andy said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:57 am
Just take both the first post down you chump.
Praguetory said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:59 am
Erm - yes, milk snatcher doesn’t seem excessive to me.
Recess Monkey said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:07 am
You’re famous, Alex.
Praguetory said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:14 am
You were completely unknown before this. You are now known as the idiot who put up a fake post about Margaret Thatcher’s death, who gloated odiously about this death - which never happened - and who then had to retract his post and issue a pathetic and rambling apology.
So you were unknown before. You are now known as a juvenile and embarrassing cunt, who makes everyone slightly nauseous.
Don’t worry, you will soon return to total obscurity.
andy said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:17 am
Recess didn’t edit. The text that the search displayed is the text replacing the picture - mouseover the picture, and ‘Milk Snatcher’ will still appear.
Anon said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:21 am
abolish the NHS
There won’t be a NHS to abolish by the time Hewitt has finished with it.
Ed Clarke said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:22 am
“Not to worry. More Bullingdon club stories to come - will make up for last night’s “oops†moment.”
Not to worry, your whole handling of this story will remind me of how reliable your sources are and just how credible your research is with a posting on tory news!
chatterbox said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:27 am
25. We’ve realised this. Derr. Hence the questions as to why this turd Hilton, whoever he is, thought the day Mrs T died would be a good day to shout abuse at her corpse.
andy said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:28 am
By any chance have you two hangovers this morning, One from the milk of human kindness that you displayed last night and one from the wake of your despicable posts. RIP Blogging by RecessMonkey.
fitaloon said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:43 am
Chatterbox, if you’re coming here for well-researched news from a well-resourced news team, I can only suggest you start maybe at bbc.co.uk.
Andy, it’s OK to be rude to me - but play nicely with the other commenters.
Yes, I was more keen than is polite - that’s how i got spoofed - No I don’t care, I spent an entire two minutes trying to work out how to write the “news” without mentioning the word “stake”.
Of course, now we know she’s alive, we can speak ill of her again?
Recess Monkey said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:53 am
So you thought it worthy to celebrate the demise of the Prime Minister that saved this country from the spiral of decline your like had brought it to!!! You think you woyld be enjoying the same standard of living if we had continued on the same policies from 1979?
So you can still be prejudice if it is about someone whose family are well off and have obviously done well. The left would rather drag everybody down to the lowest rung than see people succeed…..doomed to failure like your pathetic story!!!
Richard said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:06 am
All the comments on your blog are from Tories, if you are the leading Labour blogger, where are your Labour readers?
Thatcherite Girl said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:15 am
You sick bastard
john said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Nah, post it again and agin Alex. It’s time the old bat croaked and anything that helps that process really is the kindest thing. I can only hope that the ever delightful PragueTory is so distraught at her passing that it too shuffles off.
Ramon said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:46 am
You poor little Tory darlings. When Thatcher dies, and she will, she’ll be called a lot worse than milk snatcher. The word ‘cunt’, which has been bandied around here excessively by tories no less (they’re not posh Recess they use rude words), may well be prevalent.
Barry Beef said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:53 am
Considering the amount of bile spewed on various right wing blogs against Blair et al, I think it’s rather hypocritical to talk about the left loving to have ‘hate figures’.
Also, Milk Snatcher is hardly the worst comment in the world- when she really does shuffle of her mortal coil it will probably be amoung the nicer things said about her, and I think the correction this morning deals pretty well with the kind of emotions most on the left will be dealing with when she goes.
On the other hand- Recess- shoot your source out of a canon and into the sun…
Giles said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:59 am
You nasty little cunt. The true face of Nulab aren’t you? God knows what Hilary Benn has in common with you.
wrinkled weasel said this on March 5th, 2007 at 11:08 am
Wish it was true. I will now cancel my order of champagne! Damn you Alex. You raised my hopes up.
Paul said this on March 5th, 2007 at 11:12 am
Your clearly hypocritical ‘intercession’ on the lady’s behalf just shows what a complete waste of space you are.
If the lady had died you just couldn’t wait to insult her memory, could you?
Your wish for her to answer in this life or the next shows you to be a person of questionable faith. Please have a word with your local priest, vicar or even your imam and ask them to intercede on your behalf as you are clearly in need of it.
Jus' passin' thru' said this on March 5th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
You silly little man.
Shires Quaffer said this on March 5th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Prague, do you fancy maggie? You are going a bit over the top about a mistaken post. Denis is dead now, and i’m sure the old bitch is lonely at the moment. She might be a bit dry downstairs since she’s old, but you can always fuck her in her gums.
barry said this on March 5th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
you piece of shit
dg said this on March 5th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Personally I’d expect you to make it clear that the news hadn’t been confirmed, but no more than that. This isn’t Reuters, blogs publish bad taste rumours all the time. There were comments on one of your competitors last week suggesting that perhaps the reason Blair hasn’t been seen for a few days is that he’s lying in a field somewhere with his wrists slit. It’s not hard to find references to personal problems suffered by Blair’s children or the secret sexual orientation of some of his cabinet colleagues. Same judgements, different scale. So getting caught out is fair enough, just make it clear you’re taking a flier based on one source next time.
Having said that your response when you found it is wasn’t true defies belief. Maggie Just Old??? Try showing a little grace and humility. You were caught out speculating on the death of an old woman. Apologise, take the posts down now you know they’re not true and move on. Using the occassion to try to score cheap points off your political opponents just makes you look like a prat and drives undecided voters towards the Tories.
If you really want to advance the Labour cause you might want to consider taking a more mature line than “Labour good. Tories evil”. Thatcher had her faults, and I’m sure you have your reasons for hating her. However most undecided voters in this coutnry know she left the UK in a far better position than when she arrived.
Leo
PopeLeo said this on March 5th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Recess: thanks for leaving the comments up from these Thatcher luvvin astroturfers.
I laughed so much I nearly shat myself. Regards - and keep up the good work.
Hamer said this on March 5th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
Well done Monkey, this is the funniest thing I have read in ages! Some of the comments are so funny they surely must also be a wind up - classic. If this is the sort of reaction Maggie’s death provokes, I can’t wait till she really does pop her clogs.
Paul Virgin said this on March 5th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
Alex you are an idiot. Have you no decency or integrity?
To announce the death of an elderly woman in the form of a jibe shows you to be a very little man….and then retract it with the excuse that someone sent you a text shows you are incompetent. You’ll fit in well in the ranks of Labour MPs!
anyonebutblair said this on March 5th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Monkey, This has been the best wind up of the Right I’ve seen in years!
You really have pulled their plonkers! It’s hilarious how they’re all rushing to defend the old witch when they’re supposed to be consigning her policies to the bin with their new “I’m not posh, honest” Dave.
Top marks!
No matter said this on March 5th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
Well done Alex,
I got very pissed last night when I read yr blog about the death of that evil hold hag. Don’t worry about making a mistake, just means that I can celebrate her death twice now - so thanks for that!!!
Heartbreak Hotel said this on March 5th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
This is incredible… can you NuLab supporters just take a moment to look at yourselves and see what you’re doing - you’re taking the piss out of the death of an old woman. I don’t like Mrs T, I didn’t like her policies much and I don’t like her personality, but those disagreements are in the past. She won her elections fair and square, she put forward her policies in her manifestos, people voted for them and she then implemented them. I thought her style was too abrasive and divisive, but I don’t think she was a bad person, and she certainly had more honesty and integrity than Blair (and indeed most current politicians), as even Tony Benn has frequently acknowledged.
It’s understandable that you are bitter about the fact that she killed your ideology forever, but don’t let that bitterness turn into petty vindictiveness.
James said this on March 5th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
RM, you are an idiot sometimes, but that’s precisely why we love you so much!
2Tall said this on March 5th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
James - read Guido recently? Yup? Well, then perhaps you shouldn’t throw stones at the stuff on here that’s quite mild by comparison.
Again, excellent work RM!
Hamer said this on March 5th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
Alex, you’re a fucking idiot - I went and opened the champagne for nothing! Nothing! What a terrible, terible waste.
Gregg said this on March 5th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Speaking as somebody whose family comes from one of the many mining communities that were destroyed by the old bitch I have this to say in defence of the ‘NuLab supporters’ - the sooner she goes the better. Nobody can ever EVER undo the torment, the heartbreak and the devastation that she caused. As a friend of my fathers said “she closed the pits coz she knew she didnt need any coal where shes going”
Billy said this on March 5th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
oh well, better put the bunting back in its box for the time being.
hellogirlsandboys said this on March 5th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
I hope you are utterly ashamed of yourself, You ought to be.
Maggie Thatcher fan said this on March 5th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
a suicide article if i ever reasd one goodbye and good riddance to your blog.
mitch said this on March 5th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Mitch old chap. Surely there should be some puncuation in your post.
Ramon said this on March 5th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
wanker
E said this on March 5th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Difficult to do that one-handed…
Hamer said this on March 5th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Billy Boy, she closed the pits because they were over manned, underproductive and run by a seditious mono maniac union leader called Scargil who was hell bent on creating a socialist utopia for him and his mates that the rest of us were going to end up paying for, may HE rot in hell when he gets there.
By the way what happened to him, did he get done for embezzling union pension funds in the end?
E said this on March 5th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Bing Bong, the witch is dead! the witch is dead! The witch is dead! Bing Bong the….Oh Bugger..
Grand Muffty said this on March 5th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
I’m the son of a County Durham pitman. I’ve got no love for Mrs Thatcher or her ilk. However, I’ve also got an elderly mother who is almost exactly the same age as Mrs T. I don’t suppose there will be a big fuss when my mam dies, she never has been famous. But if anyone were to gloat in the way that some people have done in comments here, I’d be incredibly hurt. To rejoice at the death of any human being only belittles you.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls!
eddie said this on March 5th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
“Yet still I want her to have to face what she did to so many families, be it in this life or the next.”
That would be allowing millions of people to own their own houses and making the enterprise culture work in the previously tax-punative, myopic, socialist flea-pit that you like to remember as the “golden days”?
You’re an idiot.
Forewarned, forearmed. said this on March 5th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
I doubt your mam was responsible for 6 million unemployed, the persecution of homosexuals in schools and the growth of an underclass of people that will never be saved. Thatcher ain’t human, she’s a monster.
barry said this on March 5th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Over the top posts on both sides here but the hate for Maggie from some Labour suppoerters is bordering on sick.She was a democratically elected Prime Minister.She did a lot of unpopular things but someone had to.Gordon Brown is reaping the benefits of those unpopular and tough decisions.Hate and disagree with her policicies by all means but wishing her dead? I detest Tony Blair but want him out of office not dead!
I have a mate who was a miner on strike in the 80’s and he recently admitted that he was too scared to admit he agreed with her and actually voted for her despite being out on the picket lines every day.He says he was’nt alone.A lot of Labour supporters can’t bare that a lot of what she did was right and that a lot of working class people,including me “betrayed their class” and voted for her.Glad i did.There will be as many of us who’ll miss her as those who’ll be celebrating when she goes.
mark said this on March 5th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
I never knew that the miners were such a selfless lot. Why, according to Mark, they were nobly voting for the end of their employment and way of life because it was the right thing to do.
Whatever.
There’s a new one, instead of having “turkeys voting for Christmas” we could have “miners voting for Maggie”!
Hamer said this on March 5th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Yes, let’s hope Maggie has to face what she did to so many families when she meets her maker. Let’s hope he takes into account the opportunities she created in the new economy by breaking the stranglehold of the unions. He might also take into account the opportunities she extended to millions of council tenants to buy their own homes, an opportunity they would not otherwise have had. Heaven beckons.
Stuart said this on March 5th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Let’s hope he also takes into account that she ripped the heart out of communities without extending any support to their newly-unemployed inhabitants thus creating whole areas infested with crime, drugs, teenage pregnancy and despair.
Hamer said this on March 5th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Heaven beckons for Thatcher? You must be fucking mad mate. Not wishing her dead but she is one evil bitch who wrecked the UK.
Long live Labour.
Richard said this on March 5th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
Maggie will go to heaven. She helped defeat godless communism after all.
Guido Fawkes said this on March 5th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
You are a sad tosser.
aaaa said this on March 5th, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Phone rang so I didn’t finish my previous post - now I can explain why I called you a sad tosser: even if you hated Mrs Thatcher you could at least show some respect in the event that she might have died. We live in a democracy and at times people are elected who we don’t like or agree with. But they are still people. Plenty of Tories - myself included - were deeply saddened when John Smith (decent, clever man, at the top of his game) died. It wouldn’t have been a disaster if he had become PM. He wanted much the same for the country as I do - he just had plans to do things differently to achieve it.
aaaa said this on March 5th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Just one small question, which always irks me about those who loathe Margaret Thatcher. You quite happily use the epithet ‘milk-snatcher’. Remind me again, when was it that Labour re-introduced free milk in schools?
TellMeMore said this on March 5th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
I think we’re getting off the point. The point is that RM is an arse. Please cn we keep on topic.
Goofball said this on March 5th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Hardly a topic, is it? Fish swim, birds fly, Labour supporter is twat. What next, Tony Blair may not be entirely honest?
TellMeMore said this on March 5th, 2007 at 6:40 pm
If you really have the hatred you claim, you are pathetic. Like the second comment, this is my first and last visit.
Stickler said this on March 5th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
Strongly disagree with her methods by all means.You flatter her by saying that she single handedly destroyed communities.Did the people in those communities have no control over their own lives? I know miners who used their redundancy money to start their own businesses which became a lot easier than ever before under Thatcher.The reason people got so hurt in the 80’s was because no government,Labour or Tory had the balls to address the problems we had in the past.Someone had to shake things up at some point.Maggie did all the hard work and got all the stick.
Do we have free milk in schools under Labour?,do the unions have all their powers back? have all the privatised industries been re-nationalised? No,exactly,a glaring admission she was right.I admire true Labour men and women such as Tony Benn,Barbara Castle etc,whom whilst not agreeing with their politcs i can appreciate their honesty and beliefs as i did with Margaret Thatcher.What exactly does Blair stand for except war?
mark said this on March 5th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
“I think you’ll find Old Wedgie was only given a hereditary peerage because there was no such thing as a life peerage at the time.”
You got that wrong too. Not your day, is it.
Fool.
gfen said this on March 5th, 2007 at 7:14 pm
Oh and no matter how much i’ve disagreed with Labour politicians,i’ve never wished them dead.Maybe it’s just a Labour trait.Harold Wilson,Ted Heath and Jim Callaghan did immense damage to this country buy not addressing the problems we had.
mark said this on March 5th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
Love it. The apology gets more comments than the original piece.
2Tall said this on March 5th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Yeeees, Tory bloggers are a principled lot. I remember the Oona King thread over on Guido.
Usually that sort of thing is only available under the counter…
Hamer said this on March 5th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
Yeah we are principled.Take note and learn!
mark said this on March 5th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
I think “f**king idiot” is the best one so far.
Recess Monkey. Retard Boy more like.
Jeremy Jacobs said this on March 5th, 2007 at 7:51 pm
God help us if we have a party running the country who wish their opposition dead.Recess Monkey,what is Labour these days? Honestly,tell me what Labour actually stands for in 2007.I knew what it stood for in 87,thought i did in 97 but they’ve totally lost me these days.
mark said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
What next - Freddie Starr ate my hamster? This blog is a joke and the hopes of its author on having any kind of political future must be what is now pushing up the daisies - NOT the Iron Lady
MC said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
If the socialists on your message boards were not spouting their hate-filled sentiments about Margaret Thatcher, but instead showed a similar level of intolerence about blacks or Jews or gays or travellers or Muslims - they would be getting a call from Inspector Knacker. But in the Utopian Socialist ideal it is okay, is it, to reserve the right to express hate - so long as it is restricted to the basis of someone’s politcal allegiance? Take a look at yourselves - these expressions of loathing do not paint a pretty picture. They are certainly not a great advert for 10 years of Labour rule…
Marquee Mark said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
that’ll teach you to make intercessions…..if you hadn’t, there would have been a better chance of your getting it right. Who said the Almighty hasn’t got a sense of humour…
just about had enough said this on March 5th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
What is the point of this blog? This man is an arse.
Ibn Warraq said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
I couldn’t possibly dignify this sad excuse for a political blog with a comment. No wonder you bottled your chance to defend your peurile behaviour on 18DoughtyStreet.
kingbongo said this on March 5th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Oh dear - in all walks of life you are only allowed to be a wanker once - guess you’ve used that up then…
john miller said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
OK sorry RM that was a knee -jerk reacton. The original comment still stands but I admire you for being man enough to not moderate or even “cough” suspend comments. I will visit this blog again because you are obviously a fair man with scruples. Thank you
john miller said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
I think you will find some did try to bring genuine political questions into this blog with no response.I repeat if Thatcherism was so bad why has Tony Blair followed so much of it,moreso than even John Major? What is New Labour? That’s a serious question and finally do you think wishing political opponents dead is a good way to further your argument? It shows you and those who agree with you in a very bad and frankly sick light.Margaret Thatcher is an 80odd year old woman,who’s had a couple of strokes and has never got over being ousted by her own party.Is that not enough for those of you who hate her? She was democratically elected 3 times.You lot lost the argument in the 80’s fair and square.Why did’nt you get your act together and beat her back then? You could’nt so 17 years after she’s gone as PM you wish her dead.I’m glad i don’t feel the same resentment towards Tony Blair who i find the smuggest most arrogant Prime Minister we’ve ever had.I’ll be glad when he goes but wishing him dead would never cross my mind.
mark said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
My dad was a printer by the way, which is partly why I think my posts were extremely even-handed to her. It’s difficult to think of one thing she did that was any good for this country… although… there was… THE SINGLE EUROPEAN ACT!
Recess Monkey said this on March 5th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Funny how a woman who did nothing good got elected 3 times.That was a very articulate response.What is New Labour?
mark said this on March 5th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
‘It’s difficult to think of one thing she did that was any good for this country…’
I know it’s hard when you have shit for brains, but it’s not *that* hard. Her fantastic reforms allowed the smashing of the lazy, Luddite, closed shop bullyboys who opposed technological advancement at Wapping. If you could stir the mangled turds that reside in your head around a bit more often, you would understand that one would have to be really, really gullible to post a story like this without checking your facts. And if you were that gullible, you end up being a socialist.. oh, hang on a sec..
Reality Check said this on March 6th, 2007 at 12:41 am
A printer? I don’t know your dad’s story but that hardly inspires confidence…
The printing union were utterly insane. If you abuse union power like that sooner or later you’re going to get what’s coming to you. FreeBornJohn summed it up well:
http://freebornjohn.blogspot.com/2007/02/you-dont-get-me.html
Or take a read of Bill Bryson’s account if you want someone who is hardly right-wing and was a member of that union at the time.
The printers union were exactly the kind of people Thatcher needed to save the British economy from. She saved us from the slow economic death of relative decline which was turning us into a basket-case.
If your deepest political conviction is based upon a feeling that the printers union were treated unfairly you should do some reading and some thinking. Perhaps if you did that you might reconsider your opinion of our greatest post-war Prime Minister.
Matthew Sinclair said this on March 6th, 2007 at 3:29 am
The longer Maggie is around the better. It will remind us what a state she left this Country in.
Paul said this on March 6th, 2007 at 10:26 am
With the neo-fascists in Nu Labour living off the back of Thathcherism.
Jeremy Jacobs said this on March 6th, 2007 at 11:11 am
Well said Paul.It will remind us that we have a stable economy,the unions not dictating things and more people owning their own homes and businesses.If that was so bad why has’nt Labour reversed any of it? Because a lady came along and did all the hard graft and took all the flack for them that’s why.
mark said this on March 6th, 2007 at 11:53 am
Things are so much better under NuLab, aren’t they? Blair is presiding over the destruction of the NHS, and there is a little matter of the Iraq war. Oh, and cash for peerages. And the breaking up of the UK. And that is just for starters. Everything Blair does seems designed to harm our country. But still the NuLab muppets want more. Wake up people, NuLab is no longer the party of social justice. They are the rich mans’ friend. This non-story is very typical NuLab, ill thought out and very, very wrong.
caro said this on March 6th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
one day she’ll die, right? please tell me it’s so.
andrew said this on March 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
funny how I live in europe, but support a party of racists and xenephobes
pragueboy is a twat said this on March 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pm
Aren’t you Jeremy Jacobs the fool who could only muster 453 idiots in Finchley to vote for you in the 2005 general election? how did it feel losing your deposit by only getting 1% of the vote?
FinchleyagainstUKIP said this on March 6th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
funny how you have nothing better to do and can’t spell zenophobe. Is this supposed to be a counter-attack?
Praguetory said this on March 6th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
When the IRA bombed that hotel in Brighton, I remember my dad, our next door neighbour and the postman dancing a jig in the street. The postie was ringing every door bell and excitedly telling everyone she was dead - turned out he was wrong. Not the most edifying display and not something I condone, BUT - the people celebrating were people living in a mining community in the north east of England, who undoubtedly suffered far more than they benefitted from Thatcher’s reforms (whether or not she did good for the country as a whole is a different matter). If people hate her, they are entitled to, and no amount of pompousness from Tory boys will be able to stop them.
Tim Parker said this on March 6th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Hackney Labour councillors were cheering too. When you find yourself celebrating the death of a British leader, you should take a long hard look in the mirror and consider where your humanity has gone.
Praguetory said this on March 6th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Exactly.I detest Tony Blair but would’nt wish him dead.That’s the big difference between Tory and SOME Labour supporters.
mark said this on March 6th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Praguetory. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. If you’re going to correct someone’s spelling, you really should get it right.
2Tall said this on March 6th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Labour supporters resorting to bringing up spelling.Which Tory policies which you all hated so much in the 80’s has Tony Blair reversed? I’m talking major ones.Which ones?
mark said this on March 6th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
Assisted places, dickfool.
Prague, nice to see you back on recess. Finished draining you mustard chucker over thatcher?
Ian Deal said this on March 6th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Oh, and the Poll Tax, which i believe the old cow thought would be very popular.
Ian Deal said this on March 6th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
The council tax under Labour is far higher than the poll tax ever was.Pensioners have gone to prison over it.People who genuinely can’t afford it unlike the students from well to do families who had to put their hands in their pockets and pay their fair share for a change under the poll tax.Then they rioted with ultra lefties tagging along for the ride.A tax which Labour councils succesfully exploited by hiking up as high as possible to sink it.It worked and hurt a lot of people in the process.A very cynical ploy but one which worked and toppled Thatcher.Very underhanded and desperate way to deal with opponents and sleazier than anything the Tories ever did.
mark said this on March 6th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Like back to basics? Or even stabbing the old cow in the back over the poll tax, now that was sleazey and that really toppled Thatcher. Yes, council tax is on average higher per person than the poll tax. But at least the rich are paying more and the poor are paying less. Unlike the poll tax, which just punished the poor. And please put a space after your fullstops. I appreciate you are saving all your hand energy for ’self abuse’ over Thatchers ankles, but do us the coutesy of making your posts readable.
Ian Deal said this on March 6th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax.
Q. Is that all the Tory-boys actually care about?
A. Only if its a fair, progressive system.
Mark Thatcher said this on March 6th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
Bit eliteist to be concerned about grammar.Thought you were a Labour supporter.Oh sorry,that’s New Labour is’nt it.World of difference.
The poll tax was introduced so that all people in a household paid their fair share.A widowed pensioner living on state pension was paying the same as a family next door in a similar house who could possibly have 4 adults working under the old rates system.How was that fair? The poll tax could have worked had it been better introduced and account taken of income i agree but the principle was fair.
Yes Thatcher was stabbed in the back by her own party.That disgusts me to this day.I don’t like the underhanded way it’s happening to Blair either much as i dislike him.
I don’t wank over Margaret Thatcher by the way.I think she stayed too long and made mistakes in her last couple of years but overall i think the country needed her in 1979 and she made a lot of difficult and unpoular decisions that noone else had the balls to.
Have the mines re-opened? No. Has Labour given the unions all their power back? No. Has privatisation been reversed? No.Can young working class,poorer people afford to buy a house under this government? No,unless they borrow 5 times what they earn and get help from parents etc.Is that progress? No.
New Labour is a complete sham.A sleazy,power corrupted sham and it has produced people who are more bothered about where full stops are in a blog or who wish their opponents were dead.How proud you must be to be part of that.
mark said this on March 6th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
A word from the lady herself
I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.
Fitaloon said this on March 7th, 2007 at 1:18 am
oh dear, i cant even correct myself without mistakes.
what a twat i am.
preaguetoryisatwat said this on March 7th, 2007 at 5:17 am
I just like to point out all the people that are accusing Thatcher of destroying communities, just were was New Labour in Longbridge and Bromford? (In case you have chosen to ignore this piece of news, I am talking about Rover and LDV). This twat on power has caused way more damage to the nation than Thatcher, strange who emigration is at an all time high! As a side point nice to see the liberal left still continue the same liberal line to all people…. well of course not, the left is 4 legs good, 2 legs better!!
Nick Rogers said this on March 7th, 2007 at 7:54 am
When Thatcher dies, there’ll be a State funeral. All the domestic dignitaries will be there. The Presidents and Kings of all the world will attend. Tributes to her greatness will flood in from the wide world, and she will go to her grave in Westminster Abbey. Five hundred years from now, schoolchildren will know the name Thatcher.
When Recess Monkey dies, somebody will flush him down the toilet.
Thon Brocket said this on March 7th, 2007 at 8:19 am
They’ll know the name Thatcher in the same way that we know the name Genghis Khan! Seeing as you seem to know of Thatcher’s funeral arrangements, could you please tell us this weekend’s lottery numbers and what I’m going to have for dinner tonight, please? Oh, and I don’t think Recess Monkey is small enough to fit down the toilet.
Little Lord Fonteleroy said this on March 7th, 2007 at 10:49 am
Hmmm….
Maybe five hundred years from now schoolchildren will know the name Thatcher from their history classes.
But today, I doubt many people do.
Maybe all us pseudo-political waffle-heads should stop arguing about a politcal has-been and start doing something constructive.
And that applies to all the bloggers by the way. Guido, Recess, Iain Dale. All of them. Surely the blogosphere is about bringing politics back to what people care about, rather than indulging in bitching.
Shame on you all.
pseudoleftie said this on March 7th, 2007 at 11:41 am
If somebody explained what New Labour stood for maybe we could have a political debate
mark said this on March 7th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
There seems to be a lot of critisism of Thatcher haters in these posts but having just read all of them the strongest bile, hatred and offensive language is in the posts submitted by her fans. I for one will be smiling when I hear she has gone - that’s if I can control myself and stifle the urge to run into the street cheering and letting off fireworks.
Nickolarge said this on March 8th, 2007 at 12:12 am
Oh, one other thing. Thanks for making me realise how deeply upset you all will be on that day. I will feel even better knowing how bad you lot will be feeling.
Nickolarge said this on March 8th, 2007 at 12:15 am
I agree with you Nickolarge. I took note of the limited vocabulary and somewhat obsessive nature of the rantings of some of these post-thatcher era thatcherites and can’t help feeling some of them have severe mental health problems. As someone who survived the Thatcher era but saw many of her family members’ quality of life severely impoverished by that woman’s evil premiership I shall be very happy to throw a party to celebrate her eventual demise, which can come not a moment too soon in my view.
Fishwife said this on March 8th, 2007 at 12:30 am
I lived through the Thatcher era in a working class family.We bought our council house,my dad got made redundant and started his own small business with his redundancy,just a market stall but nevertheless we all pulled together and made it a success.You really do flatter Margaret Thatcher by saying she ruined your families lives.Did they have no control over their own at all? As for bile and hatred.Personally i can’t think of much worse than wishing someone dead and celebrating.Maybe that’s why some of us Tories have got just a little bit angry.Just a thought.If you think that’s an ok way to behave,God help us.
mark said this on March 8th, 2007 at 1:02 am
Well we can’t all be taxi drivers and market traders
fabian said this on March 8th, 2007 at 1:38 am
I took the redundancy from British Airways when Maggie was prepping it for privatisation. The company made good money before they sold it and still does so no change there. All that has changed is that working there is not as good as it used to be. More people work for them now than when I left so what exactly were the redundancies for? If all those nationalised industries were such lame ducks why was there a big rush to buy the shares when they were sold off? What choice did I have? The guys who stayed ended up not working for BA either because they sold off my department, knocked down less than 10 year old buildings and put a car park in their place! Most of Thatchers ‘achievments’ were greatly exaggerated and that’s being generous. Most of her policy chickens came home to roost during Majors premiership and he ended up paying the price. It’s a pity for the Tories that he didn’t read the script. He was meant to lose to Kinnock who would have then had all the problems that poor Johnny boy had to face. Kinnock would have looked like the worst PM ever and the Tories would have got back for another three terms.
Nickolarge said this on March 8th, 2007 at 2:07 am
I see Labour has re-nationalised everything Nickolarge as they are so opposed to it in principle.Is that why it’s slowly creeping into the health service? Something Labour lambasted the Tories from even considering back in the day.Most hypocritical government we’ve ever had.
mark said this on March 8th, 2007 at 10:13 am
Costs money to nationalise large industries mate. Most people who sell the family silver to fund dodgy projects never have the money again to buy it back. Most of those companies got nationalised way back for not much money because the Tories who ran them had driven them almost to ruin. Despite all of the acknowledged problems with running a state owned company 90% were making money for us when they were sold off at a cut price.
Nickolarge said this on March 8th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
British Leyland for one was not making money.Made a loss on every car produced.That was the kind of “hidden” unemployment that went on under Labour and Tory governments til Maggie came along.Noone had the balls to deal with it before.Just kept pumping tax payers money in to dead horses.
As for re-nationalising.Take your point about the expense but how do you explain Labour extending it,in the health service,education,transport etc.If Labour were a true socialist reforming government they’d have found ways to re-nationalise,they’d have given the unions their powers back etc.Maggie was bold enough to impliment her beliefs.Why not Labour? Because socialism is dead that’s why.It failed.Margaret Thatcher killed it off and Blair to his credit has kept it at bay.Everyone is fighting on the middle ground and like it or not that’s down to her.We don’t need her agressive reforming policies now but we did back then unless of course we had a government who wanted to totally change society as Labour once did and which many of you socialists still crave.
Anyway,this blog was about Labour supporters revelling in the supposed death of an 80 odd year old woman who a lot of people did like and admire and did vote for.We’ll never agree on politics but i would hope people like you would reflect on just what a sick thing that is.I’ve never wished my political opponents dead.I find it sickening.
mark said this on March 8th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
I have never been a follower of the ‘don’t speak ill of the dead’ rule. If I spoke ill of someone when alive I will continue to do so when they go. As far as wishing political opponents dead, irrespective of their methods, Saddam, Osama and for that matter Adolf fall firmly into the political opponents category. Do non British opponents count? Remember that Saddam never did anything to directly threaten us and yet I would guess that during either Gulf war you would have been happy to hear that a bomb or missile had got him. Or maybe not. What would you have honestly felt?
Nickolarge said this on March 9th, 2007 at 11:11 am
Big difference,in fact huge difference.Margaret Thatcher was elected and re-elected.She was’nt a dictator.I’m sure you think she acted like one but fact remains she was’nt.She was elected under the same system we have now and had before.She won the arguments and the socialists did’nt.We can argue about the electoral system but that argument would then have to be applied to Blair,Major,Wilson,Heath etc.The British people who supposedly hated her so much could have kicked her out.Death is a bit extreme when you have a vote.Here’s an idea.Why did’nt Labour try and win the arguments in the 80’s and sort themselves out? Surely it was their duty to save their supporters from this evil woman.They were no match for her that’s why
mark said this on March 9th, 2007 at 11:31 am
OT, but if you look at the word cloud in the right-hand column, ‘Guido’ is bigger than both ‘Gordon Brown’ and ‘Tony Blair’, which might mean something about the site. In fact, ‘Tony Blair’ is no bigger than ‘twat’.
Twat said this on March 9th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
Yet still I want her to have to face what she did to so many families, be it in this life or the next.
what make them better off? ya silly fuck
socialism'sdead said this on March 10th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
In most so called democracies you get dictatorship by committee for 4 or 5 years. They talk about mandates but rarely deliver on the manifesto they stood on. They also do many other things that they knew they would do in advance but never mentioned in the campaign. To be honest based upon the fact that, A/ I have always lived in safe Tory seats with a useless vote that has no effect and B/ The winning party never polls 50% of the votes cast, The argument that any of them get ‘elected’ carries no weight with me save for the fact that it gives them power for a while. Add to that the fact that they nearly all ‘go native’ as soon as they take a seat in the house and you will understand why I have little time for any of them. I will grant you that Thatcher stood out but only from the usual bad bunch.
Nickolarge said this on March 11th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
She also carried out her manifesto promises and i repeat again was not a dictator.I’m sure you’d love to think of and portray her as one.She was’nt
mark said this on March 11th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
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RecessMonkey » Blog Archive » Numero Uno - and don’t you forget it said this on December 27th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Maggie was ok
, stop having a go at her , her son is ok too
you lefties make me sick
john said this on June 20th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Her son is Ok Too? He’s got a website where he openly asks for money to start a Military Coup - www.fundacoup.com
mark said this on August 19th, 2008 at 10:52 am