…being “Nadine”, naturally, of the Dorries variety.
Accompanied by a photo, which is the visual equivalent of saying, “some of my best friends are black”, Nadine Dorries MP has written a piece on her blog which Recess Monkey finds deeply distressing.
It is at this point that I would probably refer to Ms Dorries as “Mad Nad”, not - of course - because of her mental state, on which I am unqualified to comment - but because of her campaign for the return of back-street abortions by equally unqualified doctors. Fortunately, Nadine says on her blog, “As an MP, I don’t mind if people want to take a pop at me” - so she probably won’t sue me for that.
Sadly, Nadine doesn’t allow comments on her blog so I can’t respond to her on her own page, where she suggests this website is somehow state funded (I wish) and makes somewhat darker inferences about me. She doesn’t mention of course that her very-definitely state funded website is adorned with multiple pictures of her daughters, so presumably it’s ok for them to be used for PR purposes when needed.
Nadine, I thought this story had sunk into the depths of blog archivedom and here you are dredging it up for more publicity than I could ever achieve, not least by drawing the attention of Iain Dale.
So now I know you’re a reader Nadine, tell me again when you think it’s appropriate for privileged white girls to use the “N” word?
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Don’t let the Princess of the Blogs get away with this rot. Nadine Dorries is wrong, again.
Chris paul said this on November 19th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
You’re a twat Alex. Everyone knows you can use the word ‘nigga’ when no one else is looking.
Iain Dale's Rabbit said this on November 19th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
You’ve made an appalling attack on Nadine Dorries’ professional integrity. I demand you do the right thing and turn off comments on your blog so no-one can criticise you or point out your mistakes.
Ennadi Bargery said this on November 19th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
While it may or may not have been… wise… for Alex to run the story in the first place, you really do have to question the wisdom of an MP who makes matters worse by highlighting the story for all her readers to see (which in turn encourages other bloggers to do the same) and then loosley throws around thinly veiled accusations of paedophilia. she’s a nutcase.
Billy said this on November 19th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
“tell me again when you think it’s appropriate for privileged white girls to use the “N” word”
Perhaps when they are quoting their black friends who are saying it?
Stocky Man said this on November 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Stocky, you make a good point, though I would argue (from the perspective of a mixed race man) that black people should be cautious about legitimising racist abuse.
Furthermore, why was she quoting? presumably because she thought it was funny. Still not good enough as far as I’m concerned, though surely if there’s a valid debate to be had, then there’s no harm in the original story?
Recess Monkey said this on November 19th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
So you admit it, Hilton? You admit you actually cyberstalked a 22 year old girl and her 15 year old sister, because they were related to a Tory MP, even though neither one of them is a public figure?
The Labour party must thank God no constituency selected you!
Anon said this on November 19th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
I admit nothing!
Recess Monkey said this on November 19th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
You’ve earned a tongue-lashing, Mr Hilton… but Nadine Dorries is going totally OTT when she comes within a gnat’s whisker of calling you a paedophile.
Tim Ireland said this on November 19th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
I see she is waving the big stick of libel lawyers at you Alex. Simon Smith at Schillings no less… A partner with 13 years experience. Say £400 per hour, three hours’ work?
Be interesting to see how she will be choosing to meet this fee. Given Ms Dorries’ abhorrence of taxpayer funds going to non-parliamentary activities, I trust that she will be paying Mr Smith’s invoice from her own pocket.
Her next Partliamentary Expenses breakdown will be read with great interest.
redacted said this on November 19th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
You should not be attacking members of her family Mr Monkey, without being too literal about it, you would not like it if it was done to your family. Come on, pLay fair. I think it is reasonable enough to expect that one’s own family is not dragged through the gutter. Come on. My advice to you is to ask your own mother. I am not being wind up merchant here, but I really think if you tell your mother what you have done, she would think black burning shame of you. It’s not ethical. Can’t you be nice?
Hey Monkey, leave her kids alone!
All we need is another brick in the wall.
Bridget Jones said this on November 19th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
Btw - I don’t recall Monkey ever mentioning anything about the 15 year old Dorries… Maddie Naddie brought it up…
Anon/Sock-puppet #2 said this on November 19th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Ahhhhh, dear me, ‘Libel, Damned Libel and Bloggers’.
I’m sure her daughter neither cares nor appreciates her mother’s rather feeble defence of her.
I agree wholeheartedly with Alex, a Chinese friend of mine will joke about his Chinese roots with me, yet he makes a point of not doing so in public, so as not to make others think it’s acceptable.
I think irresponsibility on Ms Dorries’ part is evident here, and she’s using it purely in a vain attempt to look cool.
It’s not even the least bit funny. It’s like Richard Pryor all over again.
Sir Humphrey.
Sir Humphrey. said this on November 19th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
This conundrum baffled the junior legal team here at Lobster Blogster. Fortunately we were able to consult with a higher authority, Mrs Justice Lobster. Her ruling is as follows:
The “N” word can be used without offence by some people, in certain contexts, but Miss Dorries is a bit silly to display it on her profile.
Recess Monkey is a bit naughty to draw attention to such a matter, merely to embarass Mrs Dorries.
Mrs Dorries action for libel will fail. The official ruling is “No case to answer”.
I would suggest that Mrs Dorries knows this too. Her modus operandi here is to create as much noise as possible, to put the frighteners on Recess Monkey. It looks like it’s worked! But at least you have the courage to keep blogging when the shit has hit the fan.
Lobster Blogster said this on November 19th, 2007 at 6:46 pm
While not always a fan of Recess Monkey, I’m at a loss as to where this nonsense about “cyber-stalking a 15 year old girl” came from. Are you happy with the insinuation by Mad Nad that you’re a paedophile?
Presumably if Mad Nad’s 15 year old daughter were to become pregnant by this mystery paedophile, she would prefer that the abortion was carried out in a back alley with a rusty coathanger, rather than legally in a safe, sterile hospital environment.
Randy Orton said this on November 19th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
I’m not commenting on that particular inference.
And don’t forget, rich girls never did have backstreet abortions. They were always provided for quietly, cleanly and safely - if they could afford it.
Recess Monkey said this on November 19th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
Taking bets: will I get more or less grief than I did from the “Maggie” incident?
Recess Monkey said this on November 19th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
On her blog Nadine Dorries asks “Is this done on a Parliamentary computer I wonder? One paid for by the tax payer ….”
Is this the same Nadine Dorries who was found guilty by the Committee on Standards and Privileges of misusing official stationery [Report on the Conduct of Nadine Dorries, 28 June 2006]?
oldgeezer said this on November 19th, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Nah, any Thatcher thing always send the Tories mental. Most Tories think Nads is anyway.
Ace said this on November 19th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
“from the perspective of a mixed race man”
You’re like a British Barack Obama building bridges and easing tensions across the racial divide. Or not.
Praguetory said this on November 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
Alex focus non nwhat you are good at licking Gordo’s boots you twat.
jim said this on November 19th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
And here’s Praguetory! The man who gave up blogging because he’s too much of a pussy!
Ace said this on November 19th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
its on the front page of Devils Kitchen as well. so thats the Libertarian crowd who are now all aware of it. Iain Dale has it - so thats the Tories. and yourself - so thats Labour.
so basically, everyone in the political blogging world now knows about that facebook profile.
hint to nadine: you could have just sent Recess an email.
its your blog reaction thats created all the fuss.
mister scruff said this on November 19th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Ennadi Bargery @ 4.22 — Could you possibly be related to Nadine Dorries, who stood for election in Hazel Grove in 2001 as Nadine Bargery?
Just interested, like
BJ said this on November 19th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
You supporters can say whatt hey like Mr Hilton. This is gutter politics of the lowest order. I hope no one does this to your children.
Do you think this is what political debate needs in this country? I hold no candle for Nadine Dorries; but trying to blow up a storm about someone else’s children.
I think even Alistair Campbell and Mandelson would disappove!
cityunslicker said this on November 19th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
So if you got rid of abortionists who would get rid of Boris’s sprogs?
no named said this on November 19th, 2007 at 11:24 pm
Speaking as someone who really is a researcher to a Labour MP, which is something you are not Alex, and may I say never will be, this is a disgusting post. My boss, a real Labour MP, thinks that if you ever had any idea of a career in politics, you have well and truly blown it with this one.
***The editor reserves the right to think this individual is a pissant coward***
Norman Shaw said this on November 20th, 2007 at 12:42 am
Norman Shaw - The glory of Britain is that this is a democracy, not a meritocracy, so even though I’m no Churchill or Attlee, I still may have a chance of being better than some of the clowns who get elected.
So if you would care to let me know your boss’ name, I’ll let you know in return whether I think they’re a clown wasting space when they should be ending poverty and whether they should grow a pair instead of hiding behind anonymously posted comments.
Please do pass this on.
Recess Monkey said this on November 20th, 2007 at 12:56 am
[…] sorry, but I must throw my 2 pence worth into the whole Recess Monkey, Dorries […]
FurberWorld » Since When Has 22 Been Childhood??? said this on November 20th, 2007 at 2:13 am
Wow, my second comment in one night.
“Alex focus non nwhat you are good at licking Gordo’s boots you twat.”
This must well be the result of a night in the pub.
Sir Humphrey. said this on November 20th, 2007 at 2:41 am
PS…Looking at Mrs Dorries after a few pints, is like watching The Omen the day before the apocalypse.
Sir Humphrey. said this on November 20th, 2007 at 2:44 am
“The glory of Britain is that this is a democracy, not a meritocracy, so … I still may have a chance of being better than some of the clowns who get elected.”
Fair point. In a meritocracy, you’d be screwed.
Praguetory said this on November 20th, 2007 at 7:06 am
Fair point. In a meritocracy, you’d be screwed.
So speaks the man who accuses shadow cabinet members of snorting the white stuff. Now… that’s political what we call serious judgement!
Bob Piper said this on November 20th, 2007 at 9:24 am
Or, even…
Now… that’s what we call serious political judgement!
Bob Piper said this on November 20th, 2007 at 9:25 am
Points to consider:
1. It was a cynical attack by Alex. Poorly judged and attack by association. He should know better.
2. A 20 something adult should know better than to put the “favourite quote” which uses “nigga” on a public website. There are security controls in place on Facebook that she could have prevented people other than her friends seeing her profile. She didn’t employ them.
4.Only idiots use the word “nigga” or “nigger” - irrespective of what race they are. Bigger idiots find it funny. Even bigger idiots say that of all the quotes they’ve heard, a quote involving that word, is the funniest. Even bigger idiots yet, will admit as much on one of the most popular websites in the world.
3. The ‘indignant mother’ post from Nadine was laughable bluster and demonstrated even poorer judgement (and a good deal of hypocrisy) by threatening lible action to someone while suggesting they may be a child predator. One would expect an MP to be a little more astute.
4. The UN said last Saturday, that man’s ability to live on this planet is being seriously undermined and we may be too late to save ourselves…shouldn’t politics be about focussing on, you know, THINGS THAT MATTER??!!??
Tony Hannon said this on November 20th, 2007 at 10:06 am
Don’tr remember these Tories being so high and mighty when they wrote up stuff about Euan Blair doing what all 17 year olds do (ie getting pissed and falling over).
still fed up said this on November 20th, 2007 at 10:21 am
I’m not a huge fan of yours Hilton, having met you, but you have gone up several notches in my estimation on the basis of this episode alone. Mad Nad is a hypocritical witch.
Me said this on November 20th, 2007 at 10:33 am
It is time to get rid of Mad Nad. Support the Labour candidate running against her in Mid Beds: www.davidreeves.org.uk
Not Nad She is Mad said this on November 20th, 2007 at 11:08 am
I think politically you have blown it.
Labour Liberal Conservative MPs all talk to each other, they each offer advice, gossip, tips and so forth, only a naive/diehard tribalist would think otherwise.
Dorries and others will have been talking about what you have done and these other MPs, the majority of whom will have families will look at your website and others see what you have said and have made a mental note about you.
As I said before, you’ve blown it.
Django said this on November 20th, 2007 at 11:13 am
Django. what exactly do you think I have done? And you did ever think this website was helping me to get elected?
Recess Monkey said this on November 20th, 2007 at 11:24 am
What have you done? You’re a paedophile, of course,
Sir Humphrey. said this on November 20th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
The propaganda machine of Mad Nad has made this about a 15 year old daughter. The daughter in question is 22, she appears in numerous publicity photos for Nadine and the following quote comes from http://www.dorries.org.uk/Expenses.aspx:
“My daughter covered the staff holidays in London during the summer. I have her permission to state that for this she was paid the minimum wage.”
Therefore (if the same daughter), we are not just talking about a daughter, we are talking about a member of staff for the Office of Nadine Dorries.
Not Nad She is Mad said this on November 20th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Using a picture of a political opponents daughter on your site is reprehensible. Posting her birthdate (because you don’t like the politics of her mother) in this day and age is an invitation for all sorts of criminal activity.
William Moriarty said this on November 20th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
Django et al, You are all missing the point of the whole thing. A dughter of an MP, brought up by an MP, broke the law in making this statement in a PUBLIC FORUM. What on Earth are you all getting at RM for? He’s only doing his job. The comments by the political fraternity on this story are shocking, you are saying politics is MOSTLY rumour. You are spineless in this context. Ms Dorries cannot write that, even under Internet Law in the UK.
M C Hunt said this on November 20th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Mr Hilton, ride this out. They’re only angry at you. So what.
M C Hunt said this on November 20th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
Using an MPs kids like that is stooping to a new low, even for NuLabour. I’d forget your plans for a political career if I were you, this story will follow you for the rest of your career - and rightly so.
roxanne said this on November 20th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
When do people wean themselves off addiction to threats and petty remarks Roxanne? Did you actually see this Facebook profile? Are you supporting ignorant youth, or would you rather talk about education? ND uses her children as part of her profile, why I have no idea, this is the result.
M C Hunt said this on November 20th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
I think you’re a twat and you’re digging your own grave. It’s quite fun to watch.
anon said this on November 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
‘When do people wean themselves off addiction to threats and petty remarks -M C Hunt’
Is it just personal paranoia that makes you see comments as threats? And as for ‘petty remarks’ free speech does still exist.
I notice that a number of the comments are similar to mine but received no response from you. Or is it just that you feel it’s safer making comments to someone whose id suggests they’re a woman? I’d be happy to discuss education, I do voluntary work on literacy & numeracy so I am quite well informed remarks on the state of education in the UK.
roxanne said this on November 20th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
this is just nonsense roxanne
M C Hunt said this on November 20th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
by the way, read the Terms on Facebook: Terms: User Conduct: para 4.
Even in Delaware ( that’s in California ) no-one likes the N word or anyone who uses it.
M C Hunt said this on November 20th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
eh, Nadine seems like a really horrid Mail reader, and if she ‘talks to labour MPs’ I’m pretty sure they’ll notice that too. Facebook is there to embarrass people. keep up the good work.
DORIS said this on November 20th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
When a word can be used by one human and not by another because they have different skin colour there is something seriously wrong. To try to legislate to entrench this language discrimination creates an even bigger issue.Unless someone is seriously racist dont be so bloody precious. Clearly Recess Monkey tried to score a hit on a very able politician who has bitten back and caused him try to display bravado and bullshit in equal measure. You lose badly Recess Monkey, you just look stupid.
G Bointon said this on November 20th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
G Bointon: At what point does someone become a serious racist- where do you suggest you draw the line? Frankly, anyone who uses such terms is simply keeping them alive and deserves to be derided, be they the daughter of a politician or the daughter of a postman.
As for your comments on Nadine- the way she decided to highlight the story on her blog, shwoing massive misjudgement of the situation, the way she complains, incorectly about Recess missusing taxpayers money, when she herself has been found to have done exactly that, and the hypocracy of decrying the use of her children, except when she does it herself suggests she is far from the ‘very able politician’ you think.
G Derrington said this on November 20th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
G Bointon…stop trying to flip this on its head, the point is, nobody should use it you moron, and if quoting it alone makes other people think it’s acceptable, then it shouldn’t be used at all.
Sir Humphrey. said this on November 20th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Recess your career is over mate. Thats the word over here in Portcullis. Labour MPs would have your bollocks on aplate if they could get their hands on you - your name is shit over here mate. Word is that anyone who wants to be anyone needs to distance themselves from you big time. apparently the party is doing the same . i think it’s called being dumped, ha ha , your f***d!Btw, one thing you didn’t take into account and that is that Dorries is Ms popular over here, just abt everyone likes her - even my boss who hates most tories. you got this so so so wrong!
exmate said this on November 20th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Sir Humphrey,you are a word police moron [can i abuse you back with the same word? is that allowed]. Trying to stop people using words is unbelievably stupid. Can you think of any words that have been legislated out of existence. My children call each other and all their friends’gay’ all the time. Overuse words and disempower them. lets all call each other the n word.Getting too anally fixated about it all will absolutely not work .
G Bointon said this on November 20th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
Whoa your f***ed recess. Message is to keep distance from you. Labour MPs want you shot, career over you t**t. Dorries VERY popular, everyone likes her, espec Jack . you screwed up you arse.
nolongeryour friend said this on November 20th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
The fact of the matter is, it’s not yet and probably never will be acceptable to use the N word in a derogatory(or other) sense towards anybody.
You seem to suggest that everybody would agree with you then, that Ms Dorries’ friend’s use of “the N word” was acceptable? How ridiculous.
Besides, if you find it so acceptable, why do you still insist on using the euphemism ‘The N Word’? Hmmmmm.
Sir Humphrey. said this on November 20th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
Don’t worry Recess. I thought it was pretty funny, and Mad Nad’s reaction is funnier still.
Randy Orton said this on November 20th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Yes mate you have blown it..maybe you could go to Israel and stand?..You could lecture them about “racism”..Take Miliband and Straw and Hodge with you..
Billyblue said this on November 20th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
I loathe this woman. She gives Tories such a bad name. I hope you take her on Alex.
Anon said this on November 20th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Anyone who can puncture the self-importance of a politician needs a pat on the back - and I support the Tories!
This is a fairly decent sized scoop for Alex (whom I hadn’t heard off till reading about the scandal in the Standard tonight)
Here’s to you Alex - and I hope your party goes down the plughole.
Fred Kite said this on November 20th, 2007 at 8:38 pm
Sir Humphrey, still struggling, still PC,still unimpressive,
If a black girl uses the n word it is still not acceptable? Legislate,legislate,legislate.
Accept the word and dis empower it.There really is no better way, and deep in your heart you know I am absolutely right.
G Bointon said this on November 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Alex,
I think the play in the political handbook of damage limitation is to concede and more on. There is no conceivable reason for you to highlight the Facebook page of one “white privileged girl” who offends your morals over another just because she is a daughter of a MP. Before you acknowledge this, any protestations will be seen as just pure chaff.
I think people are also mystified about how you came across the offending quote. Was it pure chance that you found a Facebook profile of Tory MP’s daughter among 43 million active sites?
Frank said this on November 20th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
Fair enough G Bointon, you go about telling people to accept it, see how far you get, and as I said before, if you think it’s so bloody acceptable STOP calling it the N word.
Sir Humphrey. said this on November 20th, 2007 at 11:09 pm
Lenny Bruce….anyone know him? Doesn’t work. Come on, G Bointon, it’s easy to talk like this when the word doesn’t apply to you. Worse still, when I use a trigger word with my mates to wind you up because you can’t. Daughters of MPs reflect the parent.
M C Hunt said this on November 20th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Frank, Nadine Dorries is a member of the Education and Skills Committee( underlined ). A role model?
M C Hunt said this on November 20th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
Alex, you made the London Lite (or was it the London Paper? One of the two, anyway) last night. At least this story did. I saved you a copy if you want it - I’m nice like that y’see.
Westmonster said this on November 21st, 2007 at 8:24 am
Article here
anon said this on November 21st, 2007 at 10:30 am
Monkey, your going down. Bye bye.
Dave Milliband said this on November 21st, 2007 at 1:24 pm
You know, I’m sure I remember us exchanging a few comments recently about the downturn in the quality of your blog. It’s nice to finally found out what you’ve been doing in your free time.
http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/2007/11/21/news-on-what-recess-monkey-has-been-up-to/
Letters From A Tory said this on November 21st, 2007 at 1:43 pm
I wonder if MadNad herself pays for her blog out of her Office Costs???? If so, isn’t complaining about you a ‘waste of taxpeyers money!’
Gman said this on November 21st, 2007 at 2:13 pm
David Milliband…I assume you actually meant to spell that ‘David Miliband’?
Sir Humphrey. said this on November 21st, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Stick it to Mad Nad, Alex!
Owen said this on November 21st, 2007 at 4:00 pm
Sir Humphrey, When you say stop using the N word I suppose you mean dont discuss it or type it? or are you asking me to spell out the whole shocking disgusting word!! Dont be coy.
I dont wish to offend your delicate sensitivities and neither do I want to get my collar felt!
Toodle pip.
G Bointon said this on November 21st, 2007 at 5:02 pm
you should be ashamed of yourself
dave bones said this on November 21st, 2007 at 10:22 pm
I find the glee at your assumed imminent demise hysterical!
“Monkey, your going down. Bye bye.”
I can’t decide if that is supposed to sound gangsta or sexual, what an arse! I suppose he means that “libel case”. Haha….or maybe the fact that this will follow you for your whole career. She’s protected and this is family business.
It was a bit snakey, especially given that there is so much ammo available to use on the loony mum (definitely not a MILF imo).
They’re not a racist family by the way, you’ll see from the blog pictures that she doesn’t mind her daughter showing affection to the nannies, even the “not polish” one.
“I know it’s only a box room but she gets meals and they really are so much better off here than they are over there”
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