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He says some cities in the north are crap. Indeed there is a book about crap cities - I don’t think that was written by a Tory or LD. It’s not a political issue. What is, is whether to keep attempting to regenerate when industry has gone. Seeing as we’re there’s a coal revival and some mothballed pits may be re-opened I think it’s too early to say whether the towns and cities mentioned have a future within current constraints.
Leunig and co are right - he is telling why this decline will continue as the shift of trade and the type of trade is based on what the South has to offer- just read the report!
I am so dissapointed that everybody wants to continue hidding behind regeneration policies. Leunig and co’s remit was “What is the faster way of increasing the income of the poor people up north?” and the fastest and best way is “Move!”. This sort of move is habitual in the US - just look at the detroit rustbelt and the sunshine states. I just think a national debate is needed over priorites, and if priorities are to reduce income inequalities then Leuning and co’s ideas make danm good sence!
Tim was my teacher at LSE as well, friends from other courses would come to his lecture just for the enjoyment of it! He is NOT saying that people MUST move, but they should if wealth is their primar aim.
I remember in a 1st year course he told us why he hadn’t moved to the US, because of his family. He realises that some people do not WANT to move, and should not be forced to, but that they should be able to.
Yes it is a bean counter’s conclusion, but we need this as a policy starting point. Once other factors are accounted for, such as community, perhaps the polic may change. Read Richard Layard on ‘Happiness’ which takes an economists’ view on the value of goods which we cannot market.
I second most comments above. He is a Lib Dem, I thought everybody knew that, and as Jock Coats pointed out, he was only stating the blindingly obviosu (obvious to an economist, historian or anybody with an ounce of commonsense et least) and further “There was something for everybody in that report … to complain about”
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As usual you are barking up the wrong tree. Tim Leunig is a leading Liberal Democrat - as listed in Who’s Who in the Liberal Democrats.
IaiN Dale said this on August 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
But Tim Leunig is a Lib Dem!!
He regularly writes at LibDemvoice - http://www.libdemvoice.org/author/tim-leunig
unseen said this on August 13th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
And what are Liberals? Yellow Tories.
Recess Monkey said this on August 14th, 2008 at 12:33 am
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Quaequam Blog! » Blog Archive » Is it okay to hate Tim Leunig? said this on August 14th, 2008 at 9:31 am
He says some cities in the north are crap. Indeed there is a book about crap cities - I don’t think that was written by a Tory or LD. It’s not a political issue. What is, is whether to keep attempting to regenerate when industry has gone. Seeing as we’re there’s a coal revival and some mothballed pits may be re-opened I think it’s too early to say whether the towns and cities mentioned have a future within current constraints.
Brandy Hart said this on August 14th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Leunig and co are right - he is telling why this decline will continue as the shift of trade and the type of trade is based on what the South has to offer- just read the report!
I am so dissapointed that everybody wants to continue hidding behind regeneration policies. Leunig and co’s remit was “What is the faster way of increasing the income of the poor people up north?” and the fastest and best way is “Move!”. This sort of move is habitual in the US - just look at the detroit rustbelt and the sunshine states. I just think a national debate is needed over priorites, and if priorities are to reduce income inequalities then Leuning and co’s ideas make danm good sence!
alex said this on August 14th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Tim Leunig was my teacher at the LSE and you couldn’t wish for:
a) a better teacher
b) a nicer bloke
james said this on August 14th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Tim was my teacher at LSE as well, friends from other courses would come to his lecture just for the enjoyment of it! He is NOT saying that people MUST move, but they should if wealth is their primar aim.
I remember in a 1st year course he told us why he hadn’t moved to the US, because of his family. He realises that some people do not WANT to move, and should not be forced to, but that they should be able to.
Yes it is a bean counter’s conclusion, but we need this as a policy starting point. Once other factors are accounted for, such as community, perhaps the polic may change. Read Richard Layard on ‘Happiness’ which takes an economists’ view on the value of goods which we cannot market.
Joe said this on August 14th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I second most comments above. He is a Lib Dem, I thought everybody knew that, and as Jock Coats pointed out, he was only stating the blindingly obviosu (obvious to an economist, historian or anybody with an ounce of commonsense et least) and further “There was something for everybody in that report … to complain about”
Mark Wadsworth said this on August 14th, 2008 at 3:14 pm